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I have seen many questions and answers on Programmers.SE and on Stack Overflow that I would consider older (maybe 2 years and more) and that are not so good compared to more recent posts. The funny thing is, they have a lot of votes. Today, I see better questions with a lot less votes. Is this a matter of people up-voting less these days?

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    Higher quality standards and question volume more than likely.
    – Zelda
    Commented May 18, 2012 at 13:29
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    @BenBrocka : I you polish your comment a little, it might be worth posting it as an answer and gain some reputation :P Your comment was upvoted once! That's 10 rep points to the trash! Commented May 18, 2012 at 13:31
  • Ah, the elusive meta reputation. I'll let someone more familiar with P.SE answer though
    – Zelda
    Commented May 18, 2012 at 13:33
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    The only meta where you get separate reputation is Meta Stack Overflow :)
    – ChrisF Mod
    Commented May 18, 2012 at 13:38

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Quality of questions and standards is surely a factor, but consider that a question that's been hanging around for two years has had a long time to accumulate votes. As time goes on, people will do searches that turn up older questions and still vote them up if they're good. And when someone asks a new question that seems familiar, somebody is likely to dig up the old one and vote to close the new one as a duplicate, thus directing more people to it.

If you want to judge the quality of a question, you have to consider both the number of up votes and the number of views. A +30 question that's only had 100 views is more likely to be of high quality than a +30 question with 3,000 views.

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  • +1, this is usually the reason older questions have more upvotes - they've simply had more time to gather votes than newer questions. It should also be noted though that user participation is lower now that the site scope has changed, which can be seen in the last graph to this answer
    – Rachel
    Commented May 18, 2012 at 16:15
  • It's not age. It's different standards.
    – user541686
    Commented May 23, 2012 at 8:24
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Yes, that's true.

Programmers had a troubled start, fully documented in this answer. In the beginning the site was called "Not Programming Related" and it was a very relaxed place where questions that didn't belong on Stack Overflow found a home. Inane (but populist) questions were migrated here from Stack Overflow en masse, carrying ridiculous amounts of upvotes with them, and for a short while NPR was the one place in the Stack Exchange universe where you'd go for mindless fun.

However, it soon became evident that people flocked around the bike shed ones and ignored any serious questions or answers, and the site was quickly filling up with crap. Which led to a somewhat sudden and drastic scope change, the site was essentially rebooted to be what it is today. The redefined scope meant higher quality standards, which for Stack Exchange usually translates to less down votes and more up votes. Combined with the fact that down votes on questions became free about a year ago, people are down voting a lot more liberally than in the past.

Of course you should also consider that older questions had obviously more time to gather up votes, they aren't all bad, newer questions will get there in time. But the main reason for the few whales that remain was the undisciplined culture of the early days, people would upvote just about anything. To give you an idea, one of that era's questions was "What's your most controversial programming opinion?", which had 391 upvotes and 414 answers.

As time goes by we become even more sharply focused, and we set our standards even higher. Useful and well research questions may not get a lot of up votes, but they do get a lot more visibility and quite more useful answers than a couple of years ago, as they are a lot easier to discover when you don't have to look for hours amongst an ocean of pointless questions like "What's your most controversial programming opinion?".

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    +1 : very very good answer explaining the history of the site. Commented May 18, 2012 at 14:24
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    @marcof The answer I link to has a far better explanation of our history, do check it out.
    – yannis Mod
    Commented May 18, 2012 at 14:26
  • There is still a need for the "mindless fun" site somewhere in the SE universe.
    – user1249
    Commented Jun 15, 2012 at 21:28
  • @ThorbjørnRavnAndersen Chat.
    – yannis Mod
    Commented Jun 15, 2012 at 21:40
  • Doesn't work for that purpose, apparently.
    – user1249
    Commented Jun 16, 2012 at 2:56
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@Rachel probably has some statistics to back this up, but these days, highly voted questions are usually either closed or converted to 'Community Wiki'.

That's why it's harder to accrue reputation points now, than it was at the beginning.

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    A question getting closed or converted to CW doesn't stop it from getting upvotes and OP is asking about upvotes not reputation (and of course in the case of closed question, upvotes still generate reputation).
    – yannis Mod
    Commented May 18, 2012 at 18:04

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