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While I downvote maybe one of the answers to 5-10 "regular" questions, I noticed that almost every question with views over 2Kviews over 2K brings answers that look bad to me.

What is especially depressing is that regular ways to deal with this kind of issues just don't work. It's typically not difficult to edit the question to repel garbage answers, I can easily name a handful of active regulars who can and docan and do just that.

more than 1700 answers scored 25+ turned community wikimore than 1700 answers scored 25+ turned community wiki

For a little data to back up what was written above, I quickly went through few sampledsampled questions with more than 10K views asked for last half year.

Please bear in mind that below list only partially represents the issue: it would be hard to do similar walkthrough for questions with over 2K viewsover 2K views since these appear about 10x more frequently.

For the sake of completeness, note that besides 199 answers reviewed above, there are also 19 answers deleted in 16 questions listed above. These answers are visible only to moderators and to users with sufficient privilegessufficient privileges. Of these 19, 9 are deleted by moderators, the rest has been deleted by owners. Of 10 answers deleted by owners, I would downvote 7-8.

URL used to get above questions is:
  http://programmers.stackexchange.com/search?tab=newest&q=views%3a10000%20closed%3a0https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/search?tab=newest&q=views%3a10000%20closed%3a0

  • Questions with 2K+ views - about 25% are CW, 307307 of total 12471247

  • Questions with 10K+ views - about 60% are CW, 6262 of total 101101

While I downvote maybe one of the answers to 5-10 "regular" questions, I noticed that almost every question with views over 2K brings answers that look bad to me.

What is especially depressing is that regular ways to deal with this kind of issues just don't work. It's typically not difficult to edit the question to repel garbage answers, I can easily name a handful of active regulars who can and do just that.

more than 1700 answers scored 25+ turned community wiki

For a little data to back up what was written above, I quickly went through few sampled questions with more than 10K views asked for last half year.

Please bear in mind that below list only partially represents the issue: it would be hard to do similar walkthrough for questions with over 2K views since these appear about 10x more frequently.

For the sake of completeness, note that besides 199 answers reviewed above, there are also 19 answers deleted in 16 questions listed above. These answers are visible only to moderators and to users with sufficient privileges. Of these 19, 9 are deleted by moderators, the rest has been deleted by owners. Of 10 answers deleted by owners, I would downvote 7-8.

URL used to get above questions is:
  http://programmers.stackexchange.com/search?tab=newest&q=views%3a10000%20closed%3a0

  • Questions with 2K+ views - about 25% are CW, 307 of total 1247

  • Questions with 10K+ views - about 60% are CW, 62 of total 101

While I downvote maybe one of the answers to 5-10 "regular" questions, I noticed that almost every question with views over 2K brings answers that look bad to me.

What is especially depressing is that regular ways to deal with this kind of issues just don't work. It's typically not difficult to edit the question to repel garbage answers, I can easily name a handful of active regulars who can and do just that.

more than 1700 answers scored 25+ turned community wiki

For a little data to back up what was written above, I quickly went through few sampled questions with more than 10K views asked for last half year.

Please bear in mind that below list only partially represents the issue: it would be hard to do similar walkthrough for questions with over 2K views since these appear about 10x more frequently.

For the sake of completeness, note that besides 199 answers reviewed above, there are also 19 answers deleted in 16 questions listed above. These answers are visible only to moderators and to users with sufficient privileges. Of these 19, 9 are deleted by moderators, the rest has been deleted by owners. Of 10 answers deleted by owners, I would downvote 7-8.

URL used to get above questions is:
  https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/search?tab=newest&q=views%3a10000%20closed%3a0

  • Questions with 2K+ views - about 25% are CW, 307 of total 1247

  • Questions with 10K+ views - about 60% are CW, 62 of total 101

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Thing is though, it takes some time to figure how to clean up ambiguous wording while preserving the essence of original. In regular questions this works like a charm, but when editing a hot one, I often find out that when I'm done with edit, someone already posted an answer that invalidates my editinvalidates my edit. And answer that exploits another minor ambiguity. And yet another, and so on, until my brain explodes!

  • Until recentlyUntil recently, low quality answers also threated to penalize contributors who post good ones because when piled on in hot questions, garbage answers trigger CW which consequently turns all the upvotes given to good answers into zero reputation for their authors.

Thing is though, it takes some time to figure how to clean up ambiguous wording while preserving the essence of original. In regular questions this works like a charm, but when editing a hot one, I often find out that when I'm done with edit, someone already posted an answer that invalidates my edit. And answer that exploits another minor ambiguity. And yet another, and so on, until my brain explodes!

  • Until recently, low quality answers also threated to penalize contributors who post good ones because when piled on in hot questions, garbage answers trigger CW which consequently turns all the upvotes given to good answers into zero reputation for their authors.

Thing is though, it takes some time to figure how to clean up ambiguous wording while preserving the essence of original. In regular questions this works like a charm, but when editing a hot one, I often find out that when I'm done with edit, someone already posted an answer that invalidates my edit. And answer that exploits another minor ambiguity. And yet another, and so on, until my brain explodes!

  • Until recently, low quality answers also threated to penalize contributors who post good ones because when piled on in hot questions, garbage answers trigger CW which consequently turns all the upvotes given to good answers into zero reputation for their authors.
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As far as I can tell, many (probably most) of my downvotes go to answers in "hot questions""hot questions".

"Hot garbage waves" in the answers appear to happen once or twice a week on average, frequent enough to feel the connection between these and respective questions making their way into SE collider listSE collider list.

Taking into account that these are highly visible posts, with thousands of views, it is pretty possible for them to be a steady source of misguided contributors... There are... broken windowsbroken windows... "why can't I post X when Y exists".

  • Until recently, low quality answers also threated to penalize contributors who post good ones because when piled on in hot questions, garbage answers trigger CWCW which consequently turns all the upvotes given to good answers into zero reputation for their authors.

Note I wrote "I'd downvote" above since I did not really do that to all the answers I checked because of voting limitsvoting limits.

As far as I can tell, many (probably most) of my downvotes go to answers in "hot questions".

"Hot garbage waves" in the answers appear to happen once or twice a week on average, frequent enough to feel the connection between these and respective questions making their way into SE collider list.

Taking into account that these are highly visible posts, with thousands of views, it is pretty possible for them to be a steady source of misguided contributors... There are... broken windows... "why can't I post X when Y exists".

  • Until recently, low quality answers also threated to penalize contributors who post good ones because when piled on in hot questions, garbage answers trigger CW which consequently turns all the upvotes given to good answers into zero reputation for their authors.

Note I wrote "I'd downvote" above since I did not really do that to all the answers I checked because of voting limits.

As far as I can tell, many (probably most) of my downvotes go to answers in "hot questions".

"Hot garbage waves" in the answers appear to happen once or twice a week on average, frequent enough to feel the connection between these and respective questions making their way into SE collider list.

Taking into account that these are highly visible posts, with thousands of views, it is pretty possible for them to be a steady source of misguided contributors... There are... broken windows... "why can't I post X when Y exists".

  • Until recently, low quality answers also threated to penalize contributors who post good ones because when piled on in hot questions, garbage answers trigger CW which consequently turns all the upvotes given to good answers into zero reputation for their authors.

Note I wrote "I'd downvote" above since I did not really do that to all the answers I checked because of voting limits.

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Summing up, I would downvote about 101-118 of 218 answers I reviewed per above research.
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1) likely contribute to posting many "bad" questions. 2) trigger CW which turns upvotes given to good answers into zero rep
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http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html "'protect your own users from scale ...human interaction, many to many interaction, doesn't blow up like a balloon...'"
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The way things work now helps to attract new contributors but I would appreciate if achieving this honorable, important goal would somehow be less damaging for good, highly visible questions.
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1) "Hot garbage waves" in the answers 2) poisonous effect mis-answers have on questions 3) edits invalidated by quick garbage answers
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