If the scope is wrong, which of these questions belong here?

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Over in Is this site failing? And should it go away? I posted this list and haven't gotten a satisfactory response yet.

If the site's scope is at issue, then some percentage of these questions should instead be open.

If these are just poorly asked questions that need some moderate editing, then there is an army of people who say they should be open that can help cultivate them.

Without identifying which questions we need to consider how the scope is wrong rather than the question doesn't fit we are simply talking in circles around each other.

So, here's the list. Where the post has been deleted (at the moment of posting this question), the entire text of the question is here.

1. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311935/running-net-desktop-application-on-linux (-3, deleted)

   This question is a software recommendation question.

   We need to develop a desktop application that would run on both Windows and Linux machines, preferably with the same code base or minimal code changes. I know Mono is an option, but I read that Mono Win Forms implementation is suitable only for very simple applications. I guess I cannot make the app using the newly announced cross-platform ".NET Core" either, as apparently it does not support client/desktop apps. So apart from Mono, is there any other option to create a cross-platform desktop application for Windows and Linux?

2. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311931/need-help-to-make-advance-search-in-php-website-project (-3, 4 close votes)

   A bit hard to determine (the close vote is for unclear). It looks like this might be too broad too. Its a student trying to do some project that isn't well articulated. The answers to it are all over the place. The OP hasn't been back since the original post of the question to help clarify.

3. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311930/pointers-and-hexadecimal (-5, deleted)

   This is an implementation question.

   So I want to make a pointer of chars.

   char *ptr = 0x239038F2 <---- this is my attempt.

   where I can iterate through each char.

   So ptr would give me 0x23 ptr++ would give me 0x90 ptr++ would give me 0x38 and finally ptr++ would give me 0xF2

4. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311928/how-do-i-implement-material-style-account-switcher (-3, closed)

   This is a far too broad "how do I do this" type question.

5. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311925/structure-of-an-abstract-for-a-conference-talk-or-workshop (-4, closed)

   This question has nothing to do with programming.

6. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311923/extraordinary-software-written-in-javascript (-8, deleted)

   This is a too broad question asking for a list of all the ways that Javascript can be used.

   JavaScript is usually used for either web frontends or backends (JavaScript). What other extraordinay things can be done with JavaScript?

7. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311921/accepting-express-js-post-requests-in-a-chrome-app (-4, closed)

   This is an implementation question for issues with writing something in Chrome.

8. How to display a non-interactive message on a JFrame? (-2, closed)

   This is an implementation question for how to do something in Java.

9. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311914/running-ruby-commands-does-nothing (-6, closed)

   This is a problem running some third party ruby software.

10. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311913/how-to-break-infinite-loop-in-turtle-graphics-python (-5, closed)

    This is an implementation question for python.

11. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311910/index-exceeds-matrix-dimension-matlab-hog-features (-4, 4 close votes)

    This is an implementation question for matlab (which was already posted on Stack Overflow)

12. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311907/wdk-10-and-visual-studio-2015-acting-funny (-6, deleted)

    This (now deleted between then and now) was closed as unclear. It was an issue with some software installation for a C library.

    I installed WDK 10 on my computer, and I tried to build a si and I got the error: An SDK corresponding to WDK version '8.1' was not found. Please install the SDK before building.. I downloaded and installed the Windows 10 SDK, and then tried build again, this time I was getting multiple syntax errors, the following code:

    Shows the following errors: fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'ntddk.h': No such file or directory, and multiple intellisense errors.

    extern "C" {
    #include <ntddk.h>
    #include <ntdddisk.h>
    #include <wdf.h>
    NTSTATUS DriverEntry(IN PDRIVER_OBJECT DriverObject, IN PUNICODE_STRING RegistryPath) {}
    }
    

    Shows the following errors: fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'ntddk.h': No such file or directory, and multiple intellisense errors.

    How do I fix this?

13. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311904/learning-linux-kernel-in-todays-world-would-i-be-better-off-hacking-with-android (-4, 4 close votes)

    This is a "what should I learn" question.

14. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311902/why-do-i-get-an-error-in-the-cpp-file-if-i-make-a-class-template-before-the-cla (-6, closed)

    This is a C++ implementation question.

15. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311901/class-as-a-variable-of-another-class (-5, closed)

    This is another C++ implementation/debugging question.

16. What's the equation to use for finding availability in software architecture? (-3, closed)

    This is a no effort homework dump.

17. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311897/error-code-c4700-uninitialized-local-variable (-5, closed)

    This is a C++ implementation question.

18. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311896/android-file-retriever-application (-4, 3 close votes)

    This is a cross posted green field question that is asking how to use the IDE.

19. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311894/how-do-i-create-a-driver-for-extra-buttons (-4, closed)

    This is a rather vague "how do I program buttons on a drawing tablet." Aside from being off topic, no information about what drawing tablet it is is provided.

20. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311892/deleting-dynamically-allocated-memory (-4, closed)

    This is a C++ implementation question.

    void RemoveDuplicates(Node *head, int size)
    {
    Node *tmp = head;
    
    while(tmp->next != NULL)
        {
    
        for(int i=0; i<size; i++)
        {
        if(tmp->data == tmp->next->data)
            {
            Node *remove = tmp->next;
            tmp->next = remove->next;
            ***//delete remove;***
            }
    
        }
    
        tmp = tmp->next;
    
    }
    

    ok, i wrote this piece of code to remove duplicated nodes in my data structure course, the commented delete operator supposed to keep freeing the memory which the remove pointer is pointed to every loop cycle. it doesn't work, IDE keep segmentation faulting me

    any help?

21. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311891/simplest-way-to-build-an-interactive-website-to-visualize-a-table (-3, closed)

    This is a unclear / too broad "how do I render a table" (there are far too many possible ways to do it).

22. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311890/where-and-how-i-can-find-explanations-of-abstractions-and-fancy-stuff-used-in-bu (-5, deleted)

    This is a rant about large software projects.

    This question is broad, but I'll try to be concise and to restrict the wideness of it.

    I'm full of hate toward these business hipster programmers, so I won't be formal this time. Sorry.

    Don't get me wrong, I really want to sort this out, I need to understand how it works.

    Let's put this in .NET framework only. It's already a good cut down of the range.

    (another 3000 characters)

23. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311888/adobe-illustrator-data-driven-graphics-via-php (-2, 4 close votes)

    This is a question about how to implement an AI that Photoshop has in php. I'm not kidding.

24. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311886/why-software-releases-must-be-self-regulated (-3, duplicate)

    This is a poorly asked duplicate of a question that searching for "Lehman" would have found.

25. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311883/sending-computer-screen-video-through-lightning-connector-to-a-iphone (-3, 3 close votes)

    This is a "is it possible" feasibility study question.

26. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311874/importing-my-class-to-a-given-tester-class (-4, closed)

    This is an unclear question that might be "how do I debug my code?" but not enough information about it is given.

    In Java I have created a class with a HashMap where I put 13 values. With it's own main it will display the RGB values of the Color Object. The problem is trying to import it to use with a given ColorTest class (which has the MAIN main and cannot be changed); which I can tell from the "NullPointerException" it gives me when trying to create a new instance from my class. I'm still very noob at coding so any help is appreciated!

    I have all the code but don't know what/where/how to change it to be used by the tester, and I just don't want to dump all that text unless someone wants to see it.

27. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311873/choose-an-application-development-environment-for-the-displaying-monitoring-da (-3, 4 close votes)

    This is a cross posted too broad question (with a bit of unclear too).

28. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311871/web-design-templates-for-backend-developing (-4, closed)

    This is a tool recommendation question.

29. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311866/connected-city-problem (-6, deleted)

    This is a cross posted (CS) what appears to be homework dump. It has since been deleted here and a bit large to include - see the CS.SE version for its text.

30. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311862/logic-of-ap-to-return-number-set-to-bit1-as-an-input-binary (-5, closed)

    This is a block of code without any question asked (a comment of "how does this work?")

    public class BitSet1
    {
        public static void main(String[] args)
        {
            double num=(Math.pow(2.0,31.0))-1;
            int num1=(int)num;
            double outnum=num1;
            int count=0;
            while(num1>0)
            {
                if((num1&1)==1)
                count++;
                num1=num1>>1;
                }
            System.out.println(count+" bits sets to 1 in number "+ outnum);
            }
        }
    

31. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311860/can-you-please-explain-what-this-php-code-below-does (-7, closed)

    Someone asking what a given function in php does.

    I just need the logic behind the statement because the idea of escaping strings doesn't seem to make sense to me. What does this code do ? and why is it escaping strings ?What does this code do ? and why is it escaping strings ?

        $BackupRegister=mysqli_real_escape_string($Count,monitorEntry($anticipatedDate,'created'));
    

32. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311857/ways-to-send-a-message-to-a-users-phone (-4, closed)

    A service request / too broad (how can you send a message to a device)

    What are some ways to send a private message to a user's phone from a separate computer over the internet? Is there any preferred or standard way to do this?

    Some methods I could think of:

    • Email: May get buried under other emails. Requires the phone to have internet connectivity. Advantage is that its free and works regardless of device operating system.
    • SMS: Either costs money (does it?) or you need an SMS gateway, which can not be figured out programmatically (can you?) Advantage is that it works without internet and works regardless of device operating system.

33. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311856/periodicity-detection-for-gapped-data (-3, 4 close votes)

    An algorithm question that might be answerable if sufficient information is provided.

34. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311855/what-is-more-lower-level-click-or-urwid (-5, closed)

    "I make web apps using flask so I am tempted to start using click since it's made by the same person but I've seen more info around for urwid? Which one is more lower level?"
    I don't even know.

35. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311854/scripting-productivity-and-speed (-6, deleted)

    How do you improve your productivity?

    I would like to ask what kind of scripts that a software engineer writes to increase his/her productivity. I know some of them could really save time so please share with me.

36. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311853/automating-scripting-and-building (-6, deleted)

    A question about automating the IDE. It is a bit unclear and if it was made clear, would be off topic here (its a tooling problem)

    I am working on a project on Visual Studio with C++. So I need to

    1) build the solution
    2) click on debug/attach to process
    3) click on 3 - 4 buttons in the programs to create and load stuff
    4) type "Run master" in a textfield(in the my program)
    5) press Enter button.

    After all this steps, then I can start testing my program. My program is desktop application on Windows 10.

    I would like to automate the whole process of clicking build right up to before I start testing. And also, I need this script to monitor the status of the build in cases of build failures to stop.

    I also need to this script to able to

    1) monitor that I click on the correct buttons so that it does not mess up other running programs.
    2) Is there someway of monitoring the changes in UI or the commands are executed or the maybe just the status/state of the program? This is to check that the script does the correct action at the right time.

37. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311850/python-functions-and-parameters (-5, deleted)

    How to type the parameters for python calls (implementation question)

    Can Python only accept parameters passed to a function that meet a certain criteria for example, Accepts as the first parameter a string specifying the data structure to be used "list", "set" or "dictionary" only

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So, that is the list from the other day. The questions that were being closed or were closed from the 50 most recent questions.

Which questions would ideally be on topic for the site?

For those questions, what part of the help center is identifying that they are off topic, or is this part of a too zealous closing?

And I would really like community managers to chime in on this too.

Answer 1

It's not the scope that is wrong, it's the name.

I took your exercise again to demonstrate, and came up with these results:

• Programmers.SE : 37/37
• SoftwareDesign.SE : 13/33, with 4 being a Maybe

While doing this, I noticed there are a lot more implementation questions than there once was. Here are new programmers looking for answers online. They see two major programming Q&A sites, one titled "StackOverflow" and another titled "Programmers". Guess which one they are going to click on first every time?

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But here's the details about my opinion on the same questions, and if I'd post each question to a site titled Programmers vs a site with a title that strongly emphasizes conceptual software design, like SoftwareDesign.

I am doing this from the point of view of a user whose only knowledge of this site is it is a StackExchange Q&A site titled "Programmers" or "SoftwareDesign", and who doesn't have a strong grasp of what makes a good/bad question for SE or want to make any significant effort in learning the meta for the site since it is not worthwhile time investment to them at the time.

1. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311935/running-net-desktop-application-on-linux - Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Maybe;

2. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311931/need-help-to-make-advance-search-in-php-website-project (-3, 4 close votes)

   A bit hard to determine (the close vote is for unclear). It looks like this might be too broad too. Its a student trying to do some project that isn't well articulated. The answers to it are all over the place. The OP hasn't been back since the original post of the question to help clarify.

   • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Maybe;

3. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311930/pointers-and-hexadecimal (-5, deleted)

   This is an implementation question.

   • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

4. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311928/how-do-i-implement-material-style-account-switcher (-3, closed)

   This is a far too broad "how do I do this" type question.

   • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

5. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311925/structure-of-an-abstract-for-a-conference-talk-or-workshop (-4, closed)

   This question has nothing to do with programming.

   • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

6. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311923/extraordinary-software-written-in-javascript (-8, deleted)

   This is a too broad question asking for a list of all the ways that Javascript can be used.

   • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

7. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311921/accepting-express-js-post-requests-in-a-chrome-app (-4, closed)

   This is an implementation question for issues with writing something in Chrome.

   • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Maybe;

8. How to display a non-interactive message on a JFrame? (-2, closed)

   This is an implementation question for how to do something in Java.

   • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Maybe;

9. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311914/running-ruby-commands-does-nothing (-6, closed)

   This is a problem running some third party ruby software.

   • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

10. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311913/how-to-break-infinite-loop-in-turtle-graphics-python (-5, closed)

    This is an implementation question for python.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

11. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311910/index-exceeds-matrix-dimension-matlab-hog-features (-4, 4 close votes)

    This is an implementation question for matlab (which was already posted on Stack Overflow)

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

12. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311907/wdk-10-and-visual-studio-2015-acting-funny (-6, deleted)

    This (now deleted between then and now) was closed as unclear. It was an issue with some software installation for a C library.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

13. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311904/learning-linux-kernel-in-todays-world-would-i-be-better-off-hacking-with-android (-4, 4 close votes)

    This is a "what should I learn" question.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

14. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311902/why-do-i-get-an-error-in-the-cpp-file-if-i-make-a-class-template-before-the-cla (-6, closed)

    This is a C++ implementation question.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

15. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311901/class-as-a-variable-of-another-class (-5, closed)

    This is another C++ implementation/debugging question.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

16. What's the equation to use for finding availability in software architecture? (-3, closed)

    This is a no effort homework dump.

    • Question cleaned up to ask about equation for finding availbity in software architecture and has been reopened. Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

17. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311897/error-code-c4700-uninitialized-local-variable (-5, closed)

    This is a C++ implementation question.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

18. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311896/android-file-retriever-application (-4, 3 close votes)

    This is a cross posted green field question that is asking how to use the IDE.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

19. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311894/how-do-i-create-a-driver-for-extra-buttons (-4, closed)

    This is a rather vague "how do I program buttons on a drawing tablet." Aside from being off topic, no information about what drawing tablet it is is provided.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

20. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311892/deleting-dynamically-allocated-memory (-4, closed)

    This is a C++ implementation question.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

21. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311891/simplest-way-to-build-an-interactive-website-to-visualize-a-table (-3, closed)

    This is a unclear / too broad "how do I render a table" (there are far too many possible ways to do it).

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

22. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311890/where-and-how-i-can-find-explanations-of-abstractions-and-fancy-stuff-used-in-bu (-5, deleted)

    This is a rant about large software projects.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

23. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311888/adobe-illustrator-data-driven-graphics-via-php (-2, 4 close votes)

    This is a question about how to implement an AI that Photoshop has in php. I'm not kidding.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

24. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311886/why-software-releases-must-be-self-regulated (-3, duplicate)

    This is a poorly asked duplicate of a question that searching for "Lehman" would have found.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

25. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311883/sending-computer-screen-video-through-lightning-connector-to-a-iphone (-3, 3 close votes)

    This is a "is it possible" feasibility study question.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

26. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311874/importing-my-class-to-a-given-tester-class (-4, closed)

    This is an unclear question that might be "how do I debug my code?" but not enough information about it is given.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

27. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311873/choose-an-application-development-environment-for-the-displaying-monitoring-da (-3, 4 close votes)

    This is a cross posted too broad question (with a bit of unclear too).

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

28. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311871/web-design-templates-for-backend-developing (-4, closed)

    This is a tool recommendation question.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

29. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311866/connected-city-problem (-6, deleted)

    This is a cross posted (CS) what appears to be homework dump. It has since been deleted here and a bit large to include - see the CS.SE version for its text.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

30. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311862/logic-of-ap-to-return-number-set-to-bit1-as-an-input-binary (-5, closed)

    This is a block of code without any question asked (a comment of "how does this work?")

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

31. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311860/can-you-please-explain-what-this-php-code-below-does (-7, closed)

    Someone asking what a given function in php does.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

32. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311857/ways-to-send-a-message-to-a-users-phone (-4, closed)

    A service request / too broad (how can you send a message to a device)

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

33. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311856/periodicity-detection-for-gapped-data (-3, 4 close votes)

    An algorithm question that might be answerable if sufficient information is provided.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: Yes;

34. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311855/what-is-more-lower-level-click-or-urwid (-5, closed)

    "I make web apps using flask so I am tempted to start using click since it's made by the same person but I've seen more info around for urwid? Which one is more lower level?"
    I don't even know.

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

35. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311854/scripting-productivity-and-speed (-6, deleted)

    How do you improve your productivity?

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

36. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311853/automating-scripting-and-building (-6, deleted)

    A question about automating the IDE. It is a bit unclear and if it was made clear, would be off topic here (its a tooling problem)

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

37. https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311850/python-functions-and-parameters (-5, deleted)

    How to type the parameters for python calls (implementation question)

    • Programmers: Yes; SoftwareDesign: No;

And to copy/paste from before :

Keep in mind, this is my perspective. Everyone's different. We can't say definitely "yes this would be asked" or "no this wouldn't be asked". It depends on the question asker.

The point is, a user who only knows "this is a SE Q&A site titled Programmers" will most likely have a very different assumption than a user who only knows "this is a SE Q&A site titled The Whiteboard" (or Software Concepts, or Software Design Theory, etc)

The term "Programmers" is an extremely broad term that could bring to mind a person writing code, a person designing software, a person gathering requirements, a person seeking a new job, etc. But in all cases, it brings to mind a person.

However a term like "The Whiteboard" (or SoftwareDesign) gives a first impression of "conceptual software design", which is more likely to bring to mind designing software, considering architecture, evaluating approaches, etc. It's much more inline with what this site actually is.

And as a footnote, I've worked many years now in user-interface design and development. I speak to end-users on a regular basis, and translate their "user-speak" to application designs, taking special care that everything is clear and makes sense from their point of view. The discrepancy between the site name and scope and subsequential confusion it causes is extremely clear to me as a major cause of this site's problem.

I know it won't fix everything, but it will significantly cut down on the number of off-topic questions that get asked.

Answer 2

The following questions should not be closed or deleted:

• What's the equation to use for finding availability in software architecture? - Although it appears to be a homework question, but the asker did show the work. The answer is also reasonably well explained. Perhaps there should be some edits to the question (specifically the title) and the tags, but there's not really a problem here.

• https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/311866/connected-city-problem - This question should probably be closed, but not deleted. There is some cross-posting, but if the asker better explains the algorithm that is being used, I don't see how it's not on-topic. It should remain closed as unclear, but there are no comments prompting for what is truly needed to help this person work through their problem.

The rest don't appear to be good. I don't agree with the close reason on all of them. For example, this question should probably be closed as a recommendation question and not unclear. But they should all be closed and on some path to deletion, either roomba or VtD.

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A theme that I'm seeing is that "unclear what you're asking" is used for questions that seem to be "do my work for me" questions. There's really no better close option that fits, but it's something to keep in mind. It's not that the question isn't clear. We fully understand that you want us to give you answers, but that isn't how it works here.