Timeline for Was this really a broad question?
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| Nov 3, 2014 at 4:47 | comment | added | Ampt | @codenheim I believe the old saying is an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I'm sorry that you feel that way about P.SE and honestly value your input. The internet can always come across as a giant echo chamber, and it's good to hear the opposition from time to time. Unfortunately, this was a bad question by an argumentative OP and I'm sorry to see you get burnt out over it. I wish you smoother sailing in your future endeavors, wherever they may be. | |
| Nov 2, 2014 at 5:14 | comment | added | mrjoltcola | I get it guys. Unfortunately, I've lost my will to debate, or contribute here anymore. The site is obviously the way you like it. I hesitate to say anything else, because you all have an answer to every argument. I feel that you would be better off focusing all this energy on technical threads, but its your free time, spend it how you like. I personally came here to answer questions, but I seem to get dragged under anytime I try to advocate for someone. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 23:13 | comment | added | user40980 | If he should choose to ask questions that have been thought out more, properly tailored to the community here (rather than duplicating the question on multiple sites), confining his questions to something that isn't too broad or open ended, he might be able to ask better questions. Though, until he stops trying to be a rebel on the site and declaring himself a martyr (look at his profile), he might have difficulty doing so. Programmers.SE is not the worldbuilding.SE version of SO. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 23:08 | comment | added | user40980 | He is also well aware that P.SE takes a dim view of people cross posting identical material on multiple sites. One such meta question can be found at meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/q/6663 . A previous conversation in chat can be found here. That this continues to be a problem, is, well, problematic. That he isn't fitting in with the norms of the community is something that he has railed against several times before. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 23:01 | comment | added | user40980 | It should also be pointed out there is a history here. The OP has been around much longer than 2 months. He previously had his account deleted here after encountering a question ban. Several of his questions on a previous account (now seen as user129679 for those who can see deleted questions) were closed as too broad. The OP is not a new user who is confused, but rather someone who has been around for at least two accounts and continues to ask broad questions after it has been explained several times the nature of too broad and the expectations for a good question on Programmers.SE. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 22:52 | comment | added | user40980 | The OP was well aware of where this post would be best received and even stated so "This seems like a programming question but it's really a fundamental security question." - it should not be surprising that as written, the question was not well received on a programming site. As noted the exact duplication is considered abusive and disrespectful to the communities involved. Instead of addressing the 'make this a good P.SE question' the action the OP took to "resolve" the issues brought up was to gut the question into a very poor one that was closed after the changes were made. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 22:49 | comment | added | user40980 | @codenheim From MSE: I'm uncomfortable with the idea of a "good answer" to a "bad question".. The problem is that the question isn't a good one for P.SE as it is written (current or first version). This also causes problems for people who answer these questions. The OP can work to make the question a good P.SE one. He is well aware of what standards exist for P.SE questions. There is nothing preventing anyone from working to make this a good, answerable question rather than a vague "I'm thinking about this." | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 15:41 | comment | added | Ampt | Then it would appear that Security.SE is the appropriate community for the question, and programmers is not. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 4:22 | comment | added | mrjoltcola | Yes, its apparent not only in the allowed questions, but in other aspects of the community. The top answer in the question posted on Information-Security.SE got +12, saying the same thing Justin Cave and I said in ours here, yet ours were briefly upvoted, and then downvoted back to 0. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 3:56 | comment | added | user40980 | Just consider memorable CS paper titles and consider if any other site would allow or encourage such questions. It works there. Why not here? Because people ask about who should be the saint of programmers or what to name their cats. And no, I'm not joking - those were real P.SE questions. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 3:52 | comment | added | user40980 | @codenheim they absolutely are. The hint answers on math.SE would be deleted on P.SE. Big list soft questions on Theoretical CS would get closed on SO. AskDifferent has hidden features posts. Software recommendations allows questions that would be closed on all other sites. World building is interesting and strange. Gaming has titles that no other site gets away with (Codegolf tries). The rules form a framework, but the implementation is different on each site. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 3:38 | comment | added | mrjoltcola | @MichaelT surely you aren't saying that the rules are subjectively interpreted and applied from site to site? | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 1:30 | comment | added | user40980 | @jt0dd workplace, english bio, blender, physics, and bio are all younger sites than programmers.SE and are less encumbered with our shift from "Not Programming Related" to "Programmers" and thus can handle different degrees of allowances for slightly less well thought out questions. Super User and Programmers are both older sites and have different expectations. Bio is half the age and 1/4 the questions. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 1:23 | comment | added | J.Todd | It doesn't matter!! They are DIFFERENT sites with DIFFERENT communities, they can both have the same question. I'm not arguing with you about this. I've seen and participated in the Meta Se discussions on this, the answers are extremely conflicted. This site along with SuperUser are statistically the two most negative sites on the network in terms of down-votes. Enough said, it sucks to come here | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 1:21 | comment | added | J.Todd | I have had great experiences on every other site except for this one and SuperUser. Maybe it's because programmers are difficult people to deal with. I don't know. But I know when I go to The Workplace SE or English SE or Blender SE or Phsics SE or Biology SE I get great answers, people are helpful and understanding, etc. Here I always find myself dealing with negative people, mainly gnat and an array of others that make coming here a horrible time | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 1:21 | comment | added | user40980 | @jt0dd you state "I cross posted the exact same question here where it was equally on-topic" that is precisely the issue - it is an exact copy. There is much that you could have, if there was appropriate material about the architecture you have issue with and how you are trying to solve it and what problems you have encountered. Note that within the help center it reads "You should only ask practical, answerable questions based on actual problems that you face." | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 1:18 | comment | added | J.Todd | The raw cut was tailored there was no change to be made, period. It was what it was, written as perfectly and it could be written for both sites. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 1:17 | comment | added | user40980 | @jt0dd The questions posted here were in no way shape or form tailored to the community, nor where they materially different. They were raw cut and paste of each other. | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 1:15 | comment | added | user40980 |
this can be OK, so long as the question is tailored to each audience on the different sites and is materially different in each case. Just to be 100% clear, copy-pasting a question across sites with no changes is considered abusive behavior. – Jeff Atwood♦ Jan 15 '11 at 3:51 (from this comment). Note the bit "as the question is tailored to each audience on the different sites and is materially different in each case."
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| Nov 1, 2014 at 1:12 | comment | added | J.Todd | The extra material on the Information Security one was here too but I was asked to remove it so I did. I was told the problem was the extra part added. Next, cross posting IS OK if the question is valuable to both communities. They are NOT the same sites nor communities, and while posting the question on both to gain attention is bad in the wrong context, in this case, it's perfectly valid and valuable on both sites | |
| Nov 1, 2014 at 1:06 | history | answered | user40980 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |