Timeline for Why are we closing/deleting questions in the software-engineering tag? That wasn't the proposed solution
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| Apr 12, 2017 at 7:31 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://programmers.stackexchange.com/ with https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/
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| Mar 16, 2017 at 17:21 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/ with https://softwareengineering.meta.stackexchange.com/
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| Mar 11, 2012 at 3:24 | comment | added | Jim G. | @Rachel: Again, thanks for fighting the good fight. IMO: Thomas Owens is giving these types of things a fair shake. | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:50 | comment | added | Rachel | And since all users only get a single reopen vote for a question's lifetime, and that vote will expire in a few days, I would prefer to get an answer as to if the edits are enough to get question opened or not before I vote to re-open. | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:48 | comment | added | Rachel | @YannisRizos I don't do "heroic edits" to keep a question closed. They are done in an attempt to re-open questions. | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:43 | comment | added | yannis Mod | @Rachel That's not true. I did reply to one of your Meta questions on one of the deletion candidates, and informed you that the question won't be deleted. So your efforts there where successful. Getting it re-opened is an entirely different matter. | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:42 | comment | added | Rachel | This all leads to me just giving up on "heroic edits". Ultimately, its a moderator decision on if a question should get reopened or not, and if they think the question isn't a good fit for the site, the question won't get reopened. | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:41 | comment | added | Rachel | My attempts at using chat lead to me being told that the decision would wait until March 3rd. The flag was the same. My attempts at asking if edits to a question would be good enough to bring a question back on topic, or asking for suggested edits, were all met with downvotes and most of the answers simply stated that no amount of heroic edits could save the question. Despite receiving some assistance from both moderators and former moderators, nobody would actually tell me if the edits were enough to make the question on-topic and get it reopened or not. | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:25 | comment | added | Thomas Owens Mod | First, if you make the heroic edit before the 21st, someone will review every single post on the list and decide if it should be closed (if it should be, flag it, if it is and shouldn't be, flag it). As far as if it's enough, you've been a memeber for a year and half - you should know what a good question looks like. Make it a good question then let the process work. Finally, downvotes on Meta mean nothing. If you want to, use Chat (unfortunately, I can't access Chat at work, so pinging me during the day isn't very helpful) to discuss the question in more detail. | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:23 | comment | added | Rachel | Thanks, I went back and re-read the original question and noticed it did link to another question which had the set of steps which would be taken on the tags. I just didn't realize that these steps would be taken regardless of what the actual proposed solution was. I still have some concern because I've already seen a bunch of people comment on all the closed questions on our front page from the career-cleanup. Career-questions are easy to explain, but if our front page fills up with closed architecture/design/SDLC questions, its just going to further confuse users. | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:20 | vote | accept | Rachel | ||
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:19 | comment | added | Rachel | And I'm kind of disillusioned about heroic edits after my last few attempts on cleanup questions. Why bother putting in the effort when people won't give you a straight answer about if it's enough to get the question re-opened or not? There doesn't seem to be enough active users on meta to get something re-opened by votes. In addition, all my efforts got was downvotes, so I figure more efforts will just get me more downvotes. | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:16 | comment | added | Thomas Owens Mod | The proposal was to follow the STCI as defined in the original post defining what to do. I proposed this tag for clean-up and it's exactly what Mark described would happen as part of any STCI and exactly what I was looking for - all good questions would get new tags, all bad questions closed. As far as the homepage, a closed question should never get to the homepage as part of STCI. The heroic edits will come before the closures/deletions on March 21/22. Any closed questions will just have the tag nuked and not be bumped up. | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:11 | comment | added | Rachel | What I really objected to was being told the cleanup was in response to a call for proposals, but the actual proposal which was what was voted on doesn't even get implemented. I looked at a few questions and did see some list-like questions, but some had good info and I think moderator time could be better used elsewhere. Also, what's going to happen when people see a lot of questions closed on our front page, which all appear to be related to architecture/design and SDLC? Many users are already unclear about the site scope, and this is just going to make it worse | |
| Mar 8, 2012 at 16:04 | history | answered | Thomas OwensMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |